Dont cause no problems and I wont hurt you. Now a bad childhood doesnt excuse cold blooded murder, of course, but it can help shed light on how some people are capable of committing atrocities such as these while the majority of us are not. CINDY: OK. CINDY: It was a really dark color. And I was supposed to meet him but I didnt show up cause I overslept. That was everywhere in the whole In the basement there was fish, there was wolf skin, there was stuffed animals everywhere. CINDY: Some times they were. While she was in her element, developing regional client solutions with diversely talented teams, she realized that her clients and many colleagues did not know much about her personal life. After we get in the garage we gotta go up these stairs. Cause I still got marks from the handcuffs on my hands. CINDY: Uh huh. FLOTHE: Hmm. Humans could have wings, tentacles or an extra ARM 'in the next few decades' thanks to leaps in human DIY fruit and veg! Apparently youre bothered by this? As shown in 'The Frozen Ground,' Cindy Paulson was Hansen's only victim who got away while he was trying to load her into his aircraft. (crying) This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Now her body has been exhumed from from the cemetery at Anchorage Memorial Park with the hope that DNA testing and facial reconstruction will lead to her being identified. Ever since I was young, I wanted to be in a role where I could play a prostitute or a drug addict, because its nice to be able to portray someone who is so far from you, which I love. Maybe they were different frames. Is there anything else that you have coming up? Being in an office meant that team building happened naturally, and to re-create that connection virtually, takes a lot of To be authentic, inclusion needs action behind it. The Big Timber, Mush Inn, I dont, sorry, I cant remember which one. Hansen likely would have continued to kill and escape justice if one of his intended victims hadn't escaped. It was during this 30 month prison stint that he was diagnosed as bipolar with schizophrenic episodes, and wife number one filed for a divorce. This site is not free, I pay more than $300 just to keep this. FLOTHE: Ah. It seems most likely that he was arrested for the sexual assaults in December of 71, remained in trouble with the law (he served a short prison sentence) throughout 72, and probably started killing after his release. On the floor instead there was an airplane seat. Kidnapped: The True Story of Cindy Paulson, Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. (laughs) Its a quick little cameo. He was messin with my neck and I was kinda trippin. He used it to stab her in the back, he said. "My gosh, she is running naked and in handcuffs on the streets of Anchorage scared to death," Rothschild recalled of the scene. I looked in the back, OK, there was like a you know how seats in front have covers theyre metal? And I said, Fine, no problem.. Wife is shocked after husband of 15 years asks for permission to have an affair: 'I don't know what to do'. (sound of paper being torn off a tablet) After hed taken a nap, Cindys kidnapper informed her that they were going on a little trip on his plane, but that she shouldnt be alarmed as hed already taken seven other women out to this location. Glenn Flothe, AST. Now her body has been exhumed from from the cemetery at Anchorage Memorial Park with the hope that DNA testing and facial reconstruction will lead to her being identified. What was your reaction when you first read the script? Have you heard anything about a sequel to Journey 2 The Mysterious Island? Email khopkins@adn.com. CINDY: And then up here to where I was starting to get it off. First, we hear about that meet up from Robert Hansens confession. (inaudible) Darla had truly believed that if she stuck it out, she could eventually talk Robert into going to church with her more often she thought that she could save the soul of the man shed vowed before God to love, and her marriage would be fixed as well. And that, um, I was lucky because usually the other ones stayed a week. Still, knowing something and proving it are two different things, and Glenn was going to need a good deal of help solving this case. When Hansen drove up to Paulson and propositioned her, she agreed to get into his car. All rights reserved. After he was released from prison, Robert decided that he needed to get as far away from Iowa as possible, so he moved near Anchorage, Alaska. It was plain. Often the family of these killers catch a ton of hell from the public, how could they possibly share their lives with a monster and not know it? As broad as that seems, its kind of the plan. I was kinda trippin I really thought (inaudible) Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. CINDY: OK, well I had got in the car to give the guy a blowjob. CINDY: Nope. He was the lead reporter on the Pulitzer Prize-winning "Lawless" project and is part of an ongoing collaboration between the ADN and ProPublica's Local Reporting Network. The stuffed heads of the animals which hed killed lined his walls, and damming items such as unique jewelry pieces which could easily be linked back to many of the missing women were found within the home as well. Paulson told Flothe in her interview, which is published in full on Leland Hale's website, the man who wrote Butcher, Baker: The True Account of an Alaskan Serial Killer: CINDY: He just said,. He takes me up the stairs to the garage, I mean, to the house. FRANK ROTHSCHILD (FR): Alright. CINDY: They were a dark brown. It was smooth like Figure 20s handle, but the gun was shaped like Figure 21. He is just so punctual, and he always knows his lines, and hes there to get the job done. (pause) When did you first see this man, Cindy? Handle was brown. CINDY: Tons Im not correct on the times, OK? When he was arrested for the sexual assaults, Robert had claimed to have been an innocent man, and she believed what hed told her; shed had her suspicions that her husband may have been a cheater who possibly enjoyed the company of an escort every once in a while, but a woman killer? CINDY: Nope. Once inside, Hansen pulled a gun on her and placed her in handcuffs. Dont worry. The story of Hanson eluding police and his eventual capture became the subject of a 2013 movie, "Frozen Ground," starring John Cusack as the killer and Nicholas Cage as an Alaska state trooper. He had already tortured and raped her, and she was still handcuffed when she ran from his car to flag down passing traffic. I operated behind a work persona. Hansen served time briefly at Lemon Creek Correctional Center in Juneau until authorities found escape plans stashed among his belongings and sent him to Seward, officials said at the time. How do you feel about the final film now that youve seen it? I understand youre in early talks for The Kitchen Sink which has been described as a monster genre mash-up. FLOTHE: You saw a bunch of money in his wallet? And, um, he took me to his house on Old Harbor Road in Muldoon. Hansen landed in a federal prison in Pennsylvania but didn't get along with other inmates.He served time in Minnesota before returning to Alaska in May 1988, corrections officials said at the time. FLOTHE: Thank you. He was afraid of running into friends, relatives or acquaintances of people who knew his many victims. Despite his growing rap sheet, Hansen escaped notice when Anchorage women soon began to disappear. Psychology tells us that we all process things differently things that you may be able to shrug off, incidents which may make you stronger and more determined could emotionally break someone else quite literally. CINDY: A little moustache. You mentioned a minute ago, Cindy, that he wanted you to go home with him, or something, and you didnt want to go home with him, or *EDIT * Cindy did not escape from the plane, she hopped out of his car. (rustling sound as Flothe shows his gun to Cindy) Did it have that or was With a cut in the back. A MAJOR PHILANTHROPIST. The infamous Special Agent John Douglas took a look at the case, and he informed the trooper that his perpetrator would likely have a stutter! FLOTHE: I hope not. CINDY: Theres no trees in the front yard. Thats another character that I dove very deeply into. To the left is the basement. Hudgens: Oh my gosh, Nic is the most professional actor Ive ever worked with and that I probably will ever work with. "I can still see him when he got livid like that," he said. Construction of the trans-Alaska oil pipeline ignited nightlife in the city blocks surrounding his bakery. https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/2017/09/08/robert-hansen-graves-along-knik/. CINDY: It was a black CINDY: About ten minutes. This looks black but its actually blue. CINDY: About eleven, eleven-thirty. Hudgens: I dont like talking about anything until I sign my contract, which I havent done yet, but it will happen most likely pretty soon. FLOTHE: Did you get into his car, or did he just get out or what? FLOTHE: What was he driving then, Sunday night? He was a natural leftie, but forced to become right handed. FLOTHE: Tapes turned back on. If youre very sensitive to that sort of thing (I know that much of my audience is ) then you may wish to skip this one. How fitting! Heres a link: https://www.patreon.com/Morbidnmacabre. There are 30+ professionals named "Cindy Paulson", who use LinkedIn to exchange information, ideas, and opportunities. Im not involved though. So he shows up Sunday night, then. He found an outlet for his feelings of sexual rejection and frustration through criminalityfirst via smaller displays of power like kleptomania, then graduating to arson, burning down a school bus garage in his hometown of Pocahontas, Iowa in 1960, a crime for which he served 20 months in prison. CINDY: Yeah, but then again one seat looks the same. A turning point came in 1983, when a teenage prostitute named Cindy Paulson ran into a Fifth Avenue motel in handcuffs, saying that Hansen had imprisoned her at his home, raped her and put her on his plane for a one-way ride. Eventually his buddys conscience got the better of him, and he confessed his crimes to the police; for his role, Robert was sentenced to three years incarceration. I was just I was hysterical and shocked, didnt know what to do, he was chasing after me with a gun. It was very, very eerie and really tough, but John (Cusack) was great. Cindy had been with BC for 14 years (more than 30 years to date), managing a region and leading many projects when she felt something was missing. And um, after he had got the condom on, I kept doing it, and then he kept feeling around my neck, like he was just trippin, playing around with my neck and my necklaces. Can you tell us how that all came about? "He was mild-mannered Bob the Baker, and as I'm looking at him, all of sudden he transformed. Like a little Datsun station wagon. FLOTHE: You drove past the house? We must step back and reflect to see new opportunities for growth. FLOTHE: OK. The killer received a 461-year sentence in February 1984, pleading guilty to four of the murders. However, she was never identified and Hansen died last month aged 75, while serving a 461-year sentence in Alaska. I just wanted a chance to work with Robert Rodriguez. I actually shot that before I filmed this (The Frozen Ground) interestingly enough. (Sound of pages turning. Brown and Caldwell's former Chief Technical Officer Cindy Paulson understands that for Balance and Belonging to thrive, employees need to be who they truly are. FLOTHE: Was there anybody with him on Friday? I overslept. Cindy reveals that Hansen flashed some bills at her and that she was entranced by the thought of his money. Glenn Flothe, AST. Glenn had been involved in the investigation of three murdered women; these victims had obviously been connected, they had all been discovered at least partially nude, theyd been shot with the same type of firearm, and buried in a shallow grave. Over by that house on Fourth, with the pickup truck camper. FLOTHE: About what time? CINDY: I could say the time but it may not be the correct one. CINDY: Um hmm. Kidnapped: Cindy Paulson, Part II July 18, 2017 Admin Leave a comment This is Installment Two of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. He spent many of the final years of his life working as a jailhouse barber. CINDY: A police officer at the Sixth Avenue police department. Black or brown? Youve taken on some very interesting, challenging roles lately in different genres like this film and also Gimme Shelter. I was going through those emotions and seeing the same things. Hudgens: Honestly, its even better than I thought it was going to be. No comments have so far been submitted. Did he only do a few takes or did he do as many as he felt he needed? He seemed really like a pretty good guy. FLOTHE: Two hundred dollars is a lot of money In the early morning of June 13th 1983, (months before the other bodies were found) Cindy Paulson appeared on the side of the road. FLOTHE: There is a kind of lightish scar there on your Robert Hansen confessed to killing 17 women in the 1970s and early 80s and after the murder 30 years ago, led authorities to her body near a lake in the north of Anchorage. CINDY: On Fourth and Denali. The serial killer wasnt even on the suspect list anymore, hed been completely cleared. FLOTHE: Youre positive. FLOTHE: Did he seem pretty sincere about wanting to get with you? Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. Hansen couldn't or wouldn't help identify her. Then they would meet. No problem. Thats not all he said, of course. Order my latest book, What Happened In Craig, HERE and HERE, true crime on Epicenter Press about Alaskas Worst Unsolved Mass Murder. He invited me afterwards to go to dinner with him and a couple of his friends because he felt so bad about putting me through that. FLOTHE: Where did you go when you did it in the car? Instead he would immediately force her to board his small bush plane, and hed fly her out to a desolate area near Knik River where he would sexually assault her in a little shack which hed occupied there. Uh huh. Healthy mother-of-two, 32, collapsed and died from brain bleed while she led fitness bounce class, Taking Vitamin D each day could cut your chances of getting dementia, study claims. Top nutrition scientist says you should drink as many varieties as possible UK's electric car revolution stalls: Britain falling behind US and Europe in race to become an EV Charles evicting Harry and Meghan is the act of a King putting his country first: REBECCA ENGLISH reveals A royal princess at Eton? (inaudible) The horns that were up there, the big ol antler horns, theyre called. I said, no, we can go to my place. He said, no, he didnt want to. As soon as he was of age Robert joined the Army reserves and moved to another town where he found himself a wife, but he was still treated badly. I chatted there with her a little bit and, uh, made an agreement with her that I was going to see her sometime. And then we hear about the same meet up from Cindy Paulsons perspective, documented in her trooper interview with Sgt. Hansen was the subject of a 2013 film titled, 'The Frozen Ground,' which starred Nicolas Cage as an Alaskan State Trooper investigating the slayings, with actor John Cusack portraying Hansen. It seems that every source I looked at says something different, though generally within those three years. Darla eventually obtained a teaching job in Russia, and as far as I can tell she remains there today: the kids made lives for themselves somewhere in the American Midwest. John Paulson. FLOTHE: And then you overslept and consequently didnt meet him. FLOTHE: Were you shown any pictures of him before? CINDY: It was about maybe four in the morning, three-thirty in the morning. CINDY: Sunday. CINDY: The Buick car, inside the garage. Daigle, the corrections official, said that as far as she knows Hansen never saw the film. CINDY: Yeah. Its way down on the bottom. CINDY: Yep. The security guard at that time FLOTHE: Did you give him your phone number or did he write it down on something? CINDY: Yep. CINDY: Uh huh. Hansen was convicted in 1984 after confessing to killing 17 women, mostly dancers and prostitutes, during a 12-year span in the 1970s and 80s. 37 Cindy Paulson Photos and Premium High Res Pictures - Getty Images CREATIVE Collections Project #ShowUs Creative Insights EDITORIAL VIDEO BBC Motion Gallery NBC News Archives MUSIC BLOG BROWSE PRICING ENTERPRISE VisualGPS INSIGHTS BOARDS CART SIGN IN Images Images Creative Editorial Video Creative Editorial FILTERS CREATIVE EDITORIAL VIDEO Cause this motherfucker wasnt getting away with it. FLOTHE: Horns? And then up here on my hand, right in the middle. After hed heard what Cindy had to say, Glenn knew a few things to be true. Hansen didn't see his victims as human, the attorney said. His alibi - two friends - also admitted they had been lying. A mousy, seemingly easy-natured family man, Hansen admitted to killing 17 woman and raping another 30 over a dozen years in the 1970s and 1980s. But Cindy could feel California clients and BCs culture were becoming more open and it felt like the right time to be fully herself at work. Be sure and look at all six. It had never crossed her mind. FLOTHE: Like this? CINDY: Um hmm. And brown socks. The remains of an unidentified victim of an Alaskan serial killer who hunted down his victims as if they were game have been exhumed in a bid to establish who she was. Hes got like frog warts on his face. FLOTHE: You also described the outside of the house. Her eventual getaway was central to Hansen's ultimate capture and confession to the murder of dozens of women. It turned into a cat and mouse chase. Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. She had been engaging in sex work. And the reality of it is were all human. But he had brown socks on. When she made the move to California in 2001, she became more open, sharing that she was happily married to a woman who also happened to be a great cook and winemaker. I absolutely adore him. In this installment, Cindy talks about being handcuffed by Robert Hansen at gunpoint and identifies his handgun. FLOTHE: So it had a longer barrel than CINDY: Like a convertible (inaudible), 1978 Buick Century 4-Door Sedan (This photo is NOT Hansens Buick, but it is similar). Hansens Den (Alaska State Troopers) FLOTHE: At this time, so I know what youre talking about, cause I have not been in the house, Cindy Ducks and birds. While there does not seem to be a singular traumatic event in Roberts childhood which we can pinpoint, it appears that hed had a really difficult time in most aspects of his life as a kid and even as an adult he just couldnt (or wouldnt) let it go. FLOTHE: When you drove up to the house did you see any other cars there at the time? This is Installment Four of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. I know I have support from leadership and throughout, and thats a great feeling., As the executive sponsor of BCs employee network group for women, Cindy worked to amplify the Balance and Belonging culture and framework internally and externally across an industry with historical nature of the industry being male dominated. Flothe (Sep 27, 1983) Cindy Paulson talks about Robert Hansen CINDY: (Inaudible) gave the gentleman my telephone number and asked him to call me. CINDY: It was probably about a 72, cream-colored Datsun, with a kinda station wagon in the back, the kind that you used to It was about a 72 or 73. FLOTHE: Which photograph is that? Glenn Flothe, AST. And he said well he was gonna start getting his moneys worth. (Cindy Paulson), Cindy Paulson Hudgens: I wanted her to be a normal teenage girl. CINDY: On. 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